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Verse 1.17: The Myth of Existence

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Verse 1.17

प्रपञ्चो यदि विद्येत निवर्तेत न संशयः ।
मायामात्रमिदं द्वैतमद्वैतं परमार्थतः ॥ १७ ॥

prapañco yadi vidyeta nivarteta na saṃśayaḥ |
māyāmātramidaṃ dvaitamadvaitaṃ paramārthataḥ || 17 ||

Will the world go away after i realise “Turiya” , will I be light ? here Gaudapadacharya says – if the world was there then there is question of staying or going arises , but there is no such world at all !!

Will the snake run away after I realise it is a rope ….the correct answer is, there is no snake to run away from …it was a rope only !

प्रपञ्चो यदि विद्येत (prapañco yadi vidyeta) निवर्तेत न संशयः (nivarteta na saṃśayaḥ) – If the world existed !! No doubt it would have gone have away! (But the world does not exists just like snake does not exist)

मायामात्रमिदं ( māyāmātramidaṃ) – It is an error , just like snake is an error !

dvaitamadvaitaṃ paramārthataḥ (द्वैतमद्वैतं परमार्थतः ) – It (Turiya) is an undivided reality i.e. Non-dual reality. There is no world separate from you which has to be driven away!

Verse 1.16: The Awakening from Maya

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Verse 1.16

अनादिमायया सुप्तो यदा जीवः प्रबुध्यते ।
अजमनिद्रमस्वप्नमद्वैतं बुध्यते तदा ॥ १६ ॥

anādimāyayā supto yadā jīvaḥ prabudhyate |
ajamanidramasvapnamadvaitaṃ budhyate tadā || 16 ||

I ( the viswa “waking state”) am asleep in Ignorance due to Maya since Beginningless!!

When did the Ignorance started??? Gaudapadacharya says ! it is from beginningless ….

Infact , all the ignorance is Beginningless !! How??

If I ask you - "Do You know German?", suppose you don't know German then you will say , "No , I don't Know German". 
So, You are ignorant about German!

Now again , If I ask you "Since when you are ignorant about German" ??

You say " since my birth I do not know German ! oh so, before your birth you knew German...? NO!! Hence You are ignorant about German from (अनादि) Beginningless..!!

But , Ignorance has an end … When does it end ??When we take up a book and start learning German!.

Similarly, Ignorance is actually Beginningless (अनादि ), but It can end . When knowledge comes it Ends !

अनादिमायया सुप्तो (anādimāyayā supto) – You cannot say since when you are in Ignorance!

यदा जीवः प्रबुध्यते (jīvaḥ prabudhyate) – when the jīvaḥ (जीवः ) awakens (प्रबुध्यते ) {Buddha came from here }

अजमनिद्रमस्वप्नमद्वैतं बुध्यते तदा ( ajamanidramasvapnamadvaitaṃ budhyate tadā ) – Then I realise

  • I am अजम (Ajam) i.e Unborn
  • I am anidram (अनिद्रम ) i.e Sleepless (without sleep) —-> referring that I am not prājñaḥ
  • I am asvapnam ( अस्वप्नम ) i.e. without dream —-> referring that I am not the Taijasa
  • I am advaitaṃ (अद्वैत) i.e. there is no second reality apart from me , I am the Viswa in waking state , I am the taijasa in the dream state and I am the prājñaḥ in the deep sleep state. Where “Viswa” , “Taijasa” and “prājñaḥ” are all appearances but the reality in all is “Turiya”

Another big questions comes in Mind is after realisation ,will this world disappear ??? will there be body after realisation?? will the body live after realisation ??

Refer next blog for the answer…..

Verse 1.15: Understanding Dreams in Spiritual Contexts

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Verse 1.15

अन्यथा गृह्णतः स्वप्नो निद्रा तत्त्वमजानतः ।
विपर्यासे तयोः क्षीणे तुरीयं पदमश्नुते ॥ १५ ॥

anyathā gṛhṇataḥ svapno nidrā tattvamajānataḥ |
viparyāse tayoḥ kṣīṇe turīyaṃ padamaśnute || 15 ||

What is a dream (Svapna) ? Its a wrong understanding or mistake (अन्यथाग्रहण )! { a rope is mistakenly seen as a snake }

“I donot know the reality (Turiya) and I see an Error or the ‘Dream world’“

निद्रा तत्त्वमजानतः / nidrā tattvamajānataḥ – Here , Nidra means doesnot know the reality (तत्त्वमजानतः )

विपर्यासे तयोः क्षीणे (viparyāse tayoḥ kṣīṇe) – It means when Ignorance goes away … how?? By knowledge then ….

‘turīyaṃ padamaśnute‘ (तुरीयं पदमश्नुते ) : i.e. you realise yourself as the pure consciousness “Turiya”.

Verse 1.14: The Concept of Turiya in Spiritual Awakening

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Verse 1.14

स्वप्ननिद्रायुतावाद्यौ प्राज्ञस्त्वस्वप्ननिद्रया ।
न निद्रां नैव च स्वप्नं तुर्ये पश्यन्ति निश्चिताः ॥ १४ ॥

svapnanidrāyutāvādyau prājñastvasvapnanidrayā |
na nidrāṃ naiva ca svapnaṃ turye paśyanti niścitāḥ || 14 ||

It means “Viswa” the waker & “Taijasa” the dreamer they have swapna (dream) & nidra (sleep) i.e. they have ignorance and error!

‘prājñaḥ’ has only nidra ( the deep sleep or sleep blankness) without dream i.e. A sleep without a dream or “Ignorance without Error“! However,

“Turiya” the pure consciousness has niether sleep nor dream i.e. niether Ignorance nor Error!

Verse 1.13: Understanding Dvaita and Turiya

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Verse 1.13

द्वैतस्याग्रहणं तुल्यमुभयोः प्राज्ञतुर्ययोः ।
बीजनिद्रायुतः प्राज्ञः सा च तुर्ये न विद्यते ॥ १३ ॥

dvaitasyāgrahaṇaṃ tulyamubhayoḥ prājñaturyayoḥ |
bījanidrāyutaḥ prājñaḥ sā ca turye na vidyate || 13 ||

It means , “Dvaitam” a separate reality or Error is not seen by the ” prājñaḥ ” the deep sleeper and “Turiya” the pure consciousness. But, the ” prājñaḥ ” or the one who is in deep sleep is associated to Nidra (i.e Ignorance / blankness), where as, “Turiya” doesnot have ignorance (or deep sleep blankness) .

” prājñaḥ ” donot see dvaita (seperate reality) niether turiya see any seperate reality apart from it . But , ” prājñaḥ ” is covered in darnkness or blankness of deep sleep whereas , Turiya illumines everything!

Verse 1.13 mantra 7th, mandukya upanishad

Verse 1.12: The State of Deep Sleep Explained

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Verse 1.12

नाऽऽत्मानं न परंश्चैव न सत्यं नापि चानृतम् ।
प्राज्ञः किंचन संवेत्ति तुर्यं तत्सर्वदृक्सदा ॥ १२ ॥

nā''tmānaṃ na paraṃścaiva na satyaṃ nāpi cānṛtam |
prājñaḥ kiṃcana saṃvetti turyaṃ tatsarvadṛksadā || 12 ||

The ‘prājñaḥ’ one who is in deep sleep does not know itself as an Atman..! It doesnot know the world (prapanch) also .. It doesnot know the truth that I am “Turiya”. It doesnot know the false world appearing infront of it (ānṛtam) चानृतम्.

किंचन संवेत्ति / prājñaḥ kiṃcana saṃvetti – The ‘prājñaḥ’ doesnot know anything i.e the state of deep sleeper !!.

and ,

How is Turiya different from It??? the answer is – तुर्यं तत्सर्वदृक्सदा /turyaṃ tatsarvadṛksadā

i.e. It (Turiya) always illumines everything ! It is self illumined about itself and about the world . It is like the movie hall where the lights have come on with nothing on the screen …( blank screen) but the lights are on !

Verse 1.11: Ignorance(Cause) and Error(effect) in Sleep

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Verse 1.11

कार्यकारणबद्धौ ताविष्येते विश्वतैजसौ ।
प्राज्ञः कारणबद्धस्तु द्वौ तौ तुर्ये न सिध्यतः ॥ ११॥

kāryakāraṇabaddhau tāviṣyete viśvataijasau .
prājñaḥ kāraṇabaddhastu dvau tau turye na sidhyataḥ

It means “Viswa” i.e. Waker and “Taijasa” i.e. Dreamer are associated to Karanam (Cause) & Karyam (effect) where Ignorance is the cause and Error is the effect.

In deep sleep there is Ignorance but there is no error. The nature of dream may be different for You and me i.e. every individual has different types of dream and are not same .

The nature of deep sleep is same for all beings whether it is a mosquito or tiger or elephant or monkey or human being or PHD or any successful businessman or an illiterate person, it is same for all beings !!

The reason is in deep sleep there is ignorance i.e. complete darkness , nothing to illumine by Turiya the pure consciousness!

Usually we do not experience any thing in deep sleep but “Advaita Vedanta” says –

Do you experience the lack of experience in “deep sleep”?

When we wake up we always say “I had a sound sleep”.

“How do you know you had a sound sleep ? if you experienced nothing in deep sleep .. who tells you that , you had a sound sleep ?”

The ‘who’ here is ‘Turiya’ .

Since ‘Turiya’ is the witness to all of the deep sleep blankness , hence when we wakeup we say “I had a sound sleep” .

Actually Turiya is witnessing this information updating in our conscious and subconscious mind that we had sound sleep . So ,when we wake up we know we had a sound sleep . This proves that Turiya exists and we are the Pure conscious beyond this body & mind !

It means “Viswa” i.e. Waker and “Taijasa” i.e. Dreamer are associated to Karanam (Cause) & Karyam (effect) where Ignorance is the cause and Error is the effect.

Verse 1.10: We are Pure Consciousness – Turiya

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Verse 1.10

निवृत्तेः सर्वदुःखानामीशानः प्रभुरव्ययः ।
अद्वैतः सर्वभावानां देवस्तुर्यो विभुः स्मृतः ॥ १० ॥

nivṛtteḥ sarvaduḥkhānāmīśānaḥ prabhuravyayaḥ |
advaitaḥ sarvabhāvānāṃ devasturyo vibhuḥ smṛtaḥ || 10 ||

“nivṛtteḥ sarvaduḥkhānām / निवृत्तेः सर्वदुःखानामी” – ‘You’ the Turiya are beyond all the dukkha’s (sadness). Right now we feel that ” I am in Pain” but one who has realized Turiya will say -” I am the witness of the pain in the body or mind”.

e.g. Same sunlight falls on the ditch , it falls on the ganga river and it falls on the Himalayas . But it is not polluted by the ditch or purified by the Ganga river, it illumines . Same way ‘Turiya’ the pure consciousness which we are illumines the sufferings of the waking world , nightmare or good dreams of dream world and nothingness of deep sleep.

īśānaḥ prabhuravyayaḥ / इशानः प्रभुरव्ययः – ‘You’ the ‘Turiya’ is God and it is Unchanging . Turiya is witness to all states

अद्वैतः सर्वभावानां देवस्तुर्यो विभुः स्मृतः– ‘You’ the Consciousness , you are the non dual (Advaita) with all the existing things . There is no second independent reality apart from Turiya (pure consciousness)

Understanding Turiya: The Fourth State of Consciousness

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I or Ego  or Knower ——————–> experiencing the “World” or “Prapanch”
Prapanch came from Sanskrit term ” prapancha prakrishtrain panch ” . The idea is out of the five elements (panch) this world is constructed ,so we use this term ‘prapanch’ for the world

  1. ‘I’ is the ‘Waker’ (who is awake ) ——> experiencing the  “Waking World” or “Jagrit Prapanch” in Sanskrit
  2. ‘I’ is the Dreamer ( who is dreaming ) —> experiencing the “Dream World”
  3. ‘I” is the Sleeper ( who is in deep sleep) —> experiencing sleep blankness or no dream & thought just a sound sleep.
  4. Turiya

Mandukya Upanishad mentions that there is a Fourth state which is called ” Turiya”. 
From the above story Ashtavakra Muni was trying to explain King Janaka there is a “Fourth State” i.e. “Turiya” which is witnessing 

  • King Janak as a ‘Waker’ experiencing the court room, courtiers , luxury, wealth etc.
  • King Janak as the ‘Dreamer’ Experiencing the battle field, sadness , hunger, misery
  • There is also a third state where there is no dreams and complete sound sleep , we usually experience nothing but Turiya is witness to sleep blankness .

What is the Fourth State Turiya ?

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Suppose we have three different forms of ornament all made of Gold 
1) Bangle 2) Necklace 3) Ring 4) GOLD

Some one tells you that these are just names and forms but the ‘reality’ is ‘GOLD“. There is a very interesting story about this . 

Once there was man who wanted to sell the statue of ‘Lord Ganesha with his vahan mouse’ all made of gold . When he went to the jeweler to sell the statue , the Jeweler weighed the ‘Ganesha’ statue and  gave him some money based on the rate of gold . Then he again weighed the mouse and gave back money to the Man . 

That Man got furious he asked the Jeweler how it is possible you are giving same price for Lord Ganesha Statue and his Mouse . Then the Jeweler replied that “Sir , for you  it is lord Ganesha and his mouse but for us it is Just GOLD “

So, the real Substance is ‘GOLD’ . Bangle , Necklace and Ring are just shapes and forms , they are not separate from Gold . When Bangle is melted and made into necklace it is the same Gold , when necklace is melted and made into Ring there also it is the same gold . 

Hence the ‘Reality’ is the substance which is Gold which is in through Bangle , Necklace & Ring.

Similarly, “TURIYA”  is referred here as Reality . 

1. You or Turiya is the same reality which is now being called as Waker in waking state experiencing the waking world , interacting with the world through sense organs , mind and body . 

2. You or Turiya is the same reality which is now being called as a Dreamer in a dream state , experiencing the dreams . 

3. You or Turiya  is the same reality which is now being called as the Sleeper in a Sleep blankness experiencing the deep sleep.  

Then what is the difference between these state . The difference is : 

  1. In the waking state we have a Physical body which is awake with mind interacting with world through sense organs. In the Waking state there is a great preponderance of physical body & interaction with the physical world through sense organs. So here the term used in Mandukya Upanishad is  “Bahish chitta” i.e.  Extroverted Consciousness . It is the consciousness which is flowing out into the world . 
  2.  Dream world is something which is constituted out of our mind based on the experiences we had in the waking state. Dreams are entirely constructed out of the Mind so the term used in Mandukya Upanishad is “ntah-prajnah ” i.e. Consciousness Directed inwards which is working only in the mind not in the external world. 
  3.  In the deep sleep there is no experience except the blankness . So, after  a sound sleep we usually say that “I don’t know anything I slept like a log of wood”. Not awake , not dreaming just a peaceful sleep . So , the term used for absolute blankness experienced in deep sleep in Mandukya Upanishad is “prajnanaghana” i.e. mass of Consciousness . Mass(ghana) meansthere is nothing for Consciousness to illumine. It just remains in blankness. All the external world , dream is pushed into a mass which since is not illumined by Turiya so it is not experienced by us  hence we experience nothing in a deep sleep. It is kind of in a “Potential” State and the next moment we wake up we again experience the same world and then world interaction with our body & mind then dreams in dream state and back to potential state . It goes on . We daily experience it in our own experience  !

So, According to Mandukya Upanishad all of these is not the reality but the reality is the “Consciousness” flowing through all of these states . 

Just like Gold is apart from Bangle , Necklace & Ring but is in & through all of them . Why we are saying Gold is apart from all three is because – 

  • If Bangles melts and goes away .. Gold survives and it can be made in to Necklace
  • If Necklace melts and goes away .. Gold still survives and it can be made into Ring . 
  • If Ring melts and goes away .. Gold still survives and it can be made in to another form . 

Gold survives so it is apart from all of the three but is in and through all of the forms  i.e. bangle , necklace & ring . But bangle , ring and Necklace are all apart from each other . 

Similarly, 

  1. The Waker is apart from the dreamer 
  2. The Dreamer is apart from the sleeper
  3. The sleeper is apart from the Waker and the dreamer 

But there is something which is continuing in all of these three states i.e Turiya 

” Turiya ” the reality is right now here it is passing through all the states  of waking to dream to deep sleep but is apart from all the three states . 

Just Like GOLD you have Consciousness  or Turiya . Body & Mind keep on changing with age but we still as consciousness witnessing everything in the changing body & mind 

  • I was the one in a 10 year old body & Mind
  • I was the one in a 30 years old body & mind
  • I was the one in a  90 years old body & Mind. 

Who is this ‘I” continuing with all ages this is the consciousness or Turiya. 

Similarly every day when we go from  waking to dream to sleep ,consciousness is illumining all the states . 

  • Consciousness or Turiya —–> Illumines the Waking state and we are able to experience the Waking world 
  • Consciousness or Turiya —–> Illumines the Dream state and we are able to experience the Dream
  • Consciousness or Turiya —–> Doesnot Illumines any thing in the deep sleep and so we are unable to experience anything in deep sleep . It is a potential state with nothing i.e. sleep blankness

Hence the actual question is what are we apart from the waking state , apart from the dream state or state of imagination and apart from sleep state . We are Pure Consciousness or TURIYA ( the fourth)

Example – 

  • Station master  (Turiya)  is watching – a train comes with lot of passengers going in & out . Then the Station master gives signal and the train Goes away. ( This is the WAKING STATE which represent the interaction with the world in form of passenger train with passengers goin in and out )
  • The next train comes which is a goods train , not much rush but the Station master (Turiya) is still watching , and then he gives the signal and the train goes away . ( This represent the DREAM State where good train comes with some good be loaded or unloaded just like dreams we get at night while sleeping)
  • Then no train come , a blank platform but the  Station Master ( Turiya) is still there watching the blank platform. ( this is the state of DEEP SLEEP when no dream are there , we experience nothing in deep sleep likea blank platform )

This is exactly what happens with us daily we experience it – 

  • You the pure consciousness , you watch the arrival of the waking state just like a passenger train with lot of dreams, hopes, success , failures , aspirations etc. all of it comes with a body mind interacting with the world and you are Watching . Only thing is You get identified with the body and mind in the waking state and say I Mr so and so experiencing this or that in the waking state.
  • You the pure consciousness, you become identified with the dream world with a dream body and experience the dream world and but you are still watching it  then it goes away
  • You the pure consciousness watching the blank platform i,e. deep sleep and again the wakinh state comes and goes on and on . 

But You the pure Consciousness (TURIYA ) which is apart from all these states but in and through these states . Not only TURIYA is apart from all the three states but is “UNTOUCHED” by all the three states. The sufferings and enjoyment of the Waking state and Dream State & the blankness of the Deep sleep state none of them touch the Pure consciousness (TURIYA) which is apart from all of these . 

In the light of Turiya the Entire Game is illumined !!